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/ R: X7 E; X# x你的模型是:" E1 _& d0 U) A3 n8 R: _
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5 \: _0 T4 A" _% ~模型假设1:个体层面,A对B有显著的正向影响 假设2:C对A和B之间的关系,具有跨层次的调节作用 假设3:D、C对A和B之间的关系,具有三重调节作用 另,团队层面的控制变量包括,organiztion1, organiztion2; 个体层面的控制变量包括age,sex。A和B和D为个体层面变量,C为团队层面变量。 Model 1:只包含控制变量 Level 1
8 c9 \( o! Z! ^- _4 qB ij=β0j+β1j(age)+ β2j(sex)+ β3j(C) + β4j(D) +file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gifij Level 21 I( a, ?! \8 o. w. r
β0j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.gif+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif01(organiztion1)+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif02(organiztion2)+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image006.gif β1j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif10+U1j β2j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif20+U2j β3j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif30+U3j β4j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif40+U4j (将调解变量C和D首先引入方程,是为了保证“在分析预测变量A的效果之前,首先控制C和D的作用”。请问,这样做可以吗?) Model 2: 加入预测变量A Level 1# c# d& L5 Q& I, e, l
B ij=β0j+β1j(age)+ β2j(sex)+ β3j(C) + β4j(D) + β5j(A) +file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gifij Level 2
2 m: L7 j" [7 p8 b0 E7 f8 R {β0j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.gif+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif01(organiztion1)+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif02(organiztion2)+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image006.gif β1j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif10+U1j β2j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif20+U2j β3j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif30+U3j β4j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif40+U4j β5j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif50+U5j(file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif50表示A对B的效应,验证假设1,对吗?) Model 3: 加入所有的二维交互项A*C、A*D、C*D(验证假设2) Level 1
! |7 v1 }, |8 G) P$ X) CB ij=β0j+β1j(age)+ β2j(sex)+ β3j(C) + β4j(D) + β5j(A) + β6j(A*C) +β7j(A*D) + β8j(C*D) +file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gifij Level 2
4 y% C! k3 C5 o5 L+ ?' y9 Nβ0j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.gif+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif01(organiztion1)+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif02(organiztion2)+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image006.gif β1j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif10+U1j β2j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif20+U2j β3j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif30+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif31(C) +U3j β4j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif40+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif41(mean D)+U4j(由于,D本来属于个体层面的变量,所以涉及到level2的分析,一律用mean D的值代替, 这样合适吗?或者您认为在D是低层面变量时,应当怎样处理?)8 j, r- U& E8 T9 Z
β5j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif50+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif51(A) +U5j β6j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif60+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif61(A*C) +U6j β7j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif70+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif71(A* mean D) +U7j β8j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif80+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif81(C* mean D) +U8j (看到JBP加油提供的文献中,file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif30(C)表示C对A和B关系的调节作用,但是我认为是file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif31表示C对A和B关系的调节作用?) Model 4: 三重交互作用(验证假设3) Level 1; e, K8 R, q" u5 [9 Z9 t* G+ E
B ij=β0j+β1j(age)+ β2j(sex)+ β3j(C) + β4j(D) + β5j(A) + β6j(A*C) +β7j(A*D) + β8j(C*D) + β9j(A*C*D)+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gifij Level 2" D, i2 `' b' R$ ]8 {; P- ^7 i& Y E1 |
β0j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.gif+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif01(organiztion1)+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif02(organiztion2)+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image006.gif β1j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif10+U1j β2j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif20+U2j β3j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif30+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif31(C) +U3j β4j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif40+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif41(mean D)+U4j β5j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif50+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif51(A) +U5j β6j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif60+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif61(A*C) +U6j β7j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif70+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif71(A* mean D) +U7j β8j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif80+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif81(C* mean D) +U8j β9j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif90+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif91(A*C* mean D) +U9j (其中,file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif91(A*C*D)表示D对C\A\B关系的三重调节作用,对吗?) 如果写论文,下面表格报告的格式可以吗?
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, O4 V; g) |6 z! v我怀疑你的模型根本就不可能,所以你的问题我不知道如何回答。7 U2 `# [0 c: ?& z1 V- @ h6 y
凡是一个高层阶的变量影响(或是调节)一个低层阶的变量,就表示这个高层阶的变量在低层阶中是不变的。所以在你的模型中,在每一个层阶中,C对A→B的影响是不变的。那么D何来再调节这个不变的影响呢?如果要有一个三阶的调节,而第一个是高层的话,另外一个一定也是高层的。你的问题只有当反过来说时,才会成立。就是D(低层)的变量调节A→B的影响,而这个调节再被C(高层变量)来调节。% }: `( c8 A; d5 b5 b
在这个情形下,我会这样模拟:* K& h( L* {: V/ ]9 q0 q
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B ij=β0j+β1j(age)+ β2j(sex)+ β3j(Aij) + β4j(D) + β5j(D*A)+file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gifrij Level 2* |# m; F/ b, C+ L
β0j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.gif=gfile:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif10 +U1j (organization 是grouping variable,不用模拟的)
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β4j=file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.gif=gfile:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif40 +gfile:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif41*C +u4j
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( n9 D A$ b+ q 参数gfile:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/mnlaw/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif51就是你要的three-way interaction了。 0 L- x5 M0 q q& |& A! c
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