由HR全权写经理级的岗位职务说明书,是正确的吗?
<P>公司做岗位职务说明书好多年了,也几乎是每年都在改,但改的原因都只有一个,体系要求的,</P><P> </P>
<P>去年是标准化体系要求,每个说明书的职责里出现了统一的一句话:<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">负责做好本部门的标准化相关工作</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">前年是EHS体系要求,每个说明书的职责里出现了统一的一句话:<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">在作业过程中严格按照相关的<SPAN lang=EN-US>EHS体系文件做好环境因素和危险源的管理</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US>大前年是ISO9001的</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US>大大前年是ISO14001的</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US>岗位职务说明书都在这样的要求修改了,但真正的工作职责却整理的很少。</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US>今年,老总又下达了命令,修改岗位职责说明书,这次好,不是因为体系的要求,只是老总说职责不明确</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US>但分配任务时,老总让部门经理的岗位职务说明书由HR独立写,写好了和老总商量,商量出最终的版本,总经理再与部门经理签字确认。</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US>如此的HR怎么办?和老总争论了大半天,无效,还是得无条件执行。</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US>至此,我们HR要找资料,重新修改岗位职务说明书样表,但HR只能知道各部门的职责是什么啊?还是细化到每年/每月/每日。。。</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN lang=EN-US>这HR不好做。</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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回复:由HR全权写经理级的岗位职务说明书,是正确的吗?
那职位说明书的书写应该是一个怎么样的流程呢?我感觉也是hr的岗位职责啊回复:由HR全权写经理级的岗位职务说明书,是正确的吗?
HR编写职位说明?那他的直接上级做什么?难道HR是全能啊?:-|回复:由HR全权写经理级的岗位职务说明书,是正确的吗?
我刚到一个公司,还是实习期,老板就让我全权负责这个事情。。。只能是试误性的成长了。。回复:由HR全权写经理级的岗位职务说明书,是正确的吗?
个人感觉本人写,HR及其老板会同确认,会否好些呢?:O
回复:由HR全权写经理级的岗位职务说明书,是正确的吗?
很正常啊,写好了叫老板修改就可以了!只要老板说可以就可以了!回复:由HR全权写经理级的岗位职务说明书,是正确的吗?
楼主,鄙人和你一样的感受。只是老板没有要求我写全部,要求各部门写了。但是回去让各部门写到具体每天干什么工作。真是晕啊。楼主,咱们彼此商量商量吧?楼主,你工作HR几年了?回复:由HR全权写经理级的岗位职务说明书,是正确的吗?
有相同的体会。1、由HR全权负则,不可能很细致,很到位,毕竟HR不是全能的;
2、由各部门经理自己写,也不合适,因为每个人都会从本位去考虑,写得很详细,就把自己套进去了,所以他们会写得比较笼统。
因此,我在想能否将经理及经理们的上级(可能是总经理)的想法汇总起来,由HR来做标准化处理,这样是否会好些?
回复:由HR全权写经理级的岗位职务说明书,是正确的吗?
个人以为hr提供规范的格式,并与经理本人依据部门职责撰写说明书,然后由hr和总经理讨论修改,如果有必要,讨论可以让部门经理参加。
岗位职务说明书不等同于任务书或者考核标准。
岗位说明书包括各类基本信息、结构关系,岗位职责,岗位要求,工作环境等东西,可以根据公司需求写,不用全部都写上。
岗位职责每年有变化是正常的,由于公司每年的计划不同,工作任务肯定也就不同。